Aldoszx
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Attached.This is a good idea! Can someone share firmware v.1.06, because it's no longer available for download.
Attached.This is a good idea! Can someone share firmware v.1.06, because it's no longer available for download.
I wonder to myself, sometimes circumstances line up and your brain starts to fool you But it's good when you update a firmware, to have a backup of the previous version, just for comparing, so i am happy that i have it after allIt turned out the same.... How can you hear the difference before??
I have updated to 1.07 and I can't hear any difference from 1.06....
This is true, and it seems everyone has to experience it to believe it. Our senses may fool us daily, we just mostly don't notice.I wonder to myself, sometimes circumstances line up and your brain starts to fool you
The Topping E30 used an AK4493.Does anyone know which version was tested here? I see there was a AK4493 version as well.
Erm, no. SMSL is a pretty gigantic umbrella company which consists of many sub-brands. But Topping is just one company standing on their own. No affiliation with big S.M.S.L.Leaving all other aside, what can be said about the 2 companies, SMSL vs Topping ?! In my mind they are all the same, Shenzen, Tpdz, SMSL, Topping etc
I am not anymore on TIDAL but when I was, the MQA indicators were turning on. There were no special settings. I was connecting the E50 via USB from a Bluesound Node though…Hello again, I just signed up for the Tidal 30-day trial and am wondering if the E50's MQA indicators are supposed to turn on when I play the "Master" files, or there is a setting to turn it on/off? So far I have not been able to get those indicators to turn on. I am using the windows app on a laptop. Thank you.
I am not anymore on TIDAL but when I was, the MQA indicators were turning on. There were no special settings. I was connecting the E50 via USB from a Bluesound Node though…
Maybe try to put the sound output (Tidal-E50) in force volume and exclusive mode it should work fine that way in Tidal. You can even passthrough the signal that way E50 does all the work first and second unfold. But hey! I'm not an mqa guy.Thank you, mine is connected via USB to a laptop only so may be that's the reason. I don't think I need that feature anyway, just being curious again that's all.
In tidal set speaker to E50 use exclusive mode and Mqa pass throughThank you, mine is connected via USB to a laptop only so may be that's the reason. I don't think I need that feature anyway, just being curious again that's all.
In tidal set speaker to E50 use exclusive mode and Mqa pass through
Thank - interesting results. To be honest, I was actually expecting more than 5 dB SINAD and dynamic range improvement from using the volume control of the A30 over that of the E50. On the other hand, the E50 is quite low noise and distortion to start with and the A30 is not a preamplifier but actually an (headphone) amplifier i.e., it introduces some harmonics on its own. I wonder if using balanced interconnects would increase the difference between the two approaches to volume control? (I guess not: it would just shift everything by a few dB)Volume of E50 vs Volume of A30Pro. AP dashboard and dynamic range.
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If it's a combination of E50 and A30Pro, balanced connection would be the first choice. Similar results are expected but may be measured at a later date.Thank - interesting results. To be honest, I was actually expecting more than 5 dB SINAD and dynamic range improvement from using the volume control of the A30 over that of the E50. On the other hand, the E50 is quite low noise and distortion to start with and the A30 is not a preamplifier but actually an (headphone) amplifier i.e., it introduces some harmonics on its own. I wonder if using balanced interconnects would increase the difference between the two approaches to volume control? (I guess not: it would just shift everything by a few dB)
Anyway, what matter a the end of the day is whether the harmonics and noise are audible in a given system at typical listening level. For example, I am typically listening with the E50’s volume sets at -40 dB and the harmonic and noise are below audible threshold (accounting for amplifier gain -AHB2 at mid gain- and my loudspeakers’ efficiency - 804d3 with 89dBSPL/2.83Vrms at 1m). On the other hand, I could imagine one using very sensitive IEM with a combo like E50 + A30 and having the noise being slightly audible at typical listening level.
In my case I believe that the analogue volume control of a preamp would not bring any audible improvement compared to only using the digital volume control of the E50 (even if the measured dynamic range would be better) as the noise floor of the DAC+amp combo is already below hearing threshold for my loudspeaker. If I were using the DAC to drive headphones, that would be a different story though.If it's a combination of E50 and A30Pro, balanced connection would be the first choice. Similar results are expected but may be measured at a later date.
The above post was for the analog volume vs. digital volume topic posted in the L30II thread. It seems to have been a combination of the E30II and L30II, but the closest I've owned was the SE-connected E50 and A30Pro.
If you haven't tried a preamp yet, one of the best things to do is try one. Try buying a preamp with excellent measurements or a headphone amp with pre-output in a shop that offers unconditional returns.
If you don't like it, you'll have to pay the return shipping costs, but at least the experience will be worth it.
This link may also help.
Cheap but non-degrading solution to add volume control between dac and amp.
I've got a Yamaha AVR as a 2.1 amp, set the AVRs volume level to "0db", use a Topping L30 as volume control, works great.www.audiosciencereview.com