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Maybe cover the tweeter like this guy?I think focals problem with their tweeters are the inverted domes.
Maybe cover the tweeter like this guy?I think focals problem with their tweeters are the inverted domes.
I'm usually skeptical of video comparisons but if they really are comparing a DSP corrected system to one that isn't, they need to let people know because that is super misleading. I will comment on the video about it.
I think focals problem with their tweeters are the inverted domes.
Forgot to add...Hello,
My very short (biased) review of Focal Alpha 80 EVO.
Bought them to replace Tannoy Reveal 802.
- Bass was a little bit accentuated and did not go deeper than 802s
- Trebles were louder than 802s, but details were (forever) lost. Harsh highs...
- Midrange was a mess, distorsion kicked in even at low volumes, much worse than 802s. Voices were not clear, especially female voices. Elvis's voice was very nasal, a true disappointment....
Now, obviously 802s are not extraordinary. I have comparison term for them.
- Bass is good, but my Cantons GLE 496 fed by Audiolab 8300A + Q Acoustics 3060s sub is a little bit better ( + Argon Audio Solo streamer + Emotiva XDA-2)
- Midrange is very good in Cantons.... Way better than Reveal 802... Clear, strong, dynamic.
- Cantons have very good trebles, detailed, neutral and dynamic. WAY BETTER than Focal Alpha 80 Evo.
So, the midrange reproduction in Focals was a deal breaker for me, as such, I returned Focals and kept my Tannoys....
I listen to a lot of electronic music, and a lot of reviewers kept repeating that Alpha Evo line is perfect for electronic music composers. That's bullshit, with those crappy highs and mids.
P.S.: I listened to metal dome tweeters (normal or inverted) from Monitor Audio Bronze, KEF (Q350 and R7), and Focal Alpha Evo. All to me sounded harsh, with no real details translated to the listening experience. Up until now, I am a fan of soft dome tweeters.
P.P.S.: I wondered numerous times if somehow my Focal Alpha EVOs were defective....
Regards,
Cristian
I listen to almost exclusively classical with my Alpha 50 (same tweeter) and I find their sound to be quite natural... they were the best I've had as far as timbric capabilities before yesterday that I've received my 8030, but that's another story... I've had a passive audiovectors in the past and the clarity in mids and highs is much better with these focals, no contest.with those crappy highs and mids.
That's not really objective. All I can say is that Frequency Response is something that you need to adapt and get used to (as I can say about my multiple system where I mixed and mastered through). You can tune down the tweeter or use DSP (SonarWorks) to flatten that curve. Also the in room response is a key factor while choosing Monitors.Hello,
My very short (biased) review of Focal Alpha 80 EVO.
Bought them to replace Tannoy Reveal 802.
- Bass was a little bit accentuated and did not go deeper than 802s
- Trebles were louder than 802s, but details were (forever) lost. Harsh highs...
- Midrange was a mess, distorsion kicked in even at low volumes, much worse than 802s. Voices were not clear, especially female voices. Elvis's voice was very nasal, a true disappointment....
Now, obviously 802s are not extraordinary. I have comparison term for them.
- Bass is good, but my Cantons GLE 496 fed by Audiolab 8300A + Q Acoustics 3060s sub is a little bit better ( + Argon Audio Solo streamer + Emotiva XDA-2)
- Midrange is very good in Cantons.... Way better than Reveal 802... Clear, strong, dynamic.
- Cantons have very good trebles, detailed, neutral and dynamic. WAY BETTER than Focal Alpha 80 Evo.
So, the midrange reproduction in Focals was a deal breaker for me, as such, I returned Focals and kept my Tannoys....
I listen to a lot of electronic music, and a lot of reviewers kept repeating that Alpha Evo line is perfect for electronic music composers. That's bullshit, with those crappy highs and mids.
P.S.: I listened to metal dome tweeters (normal or inverted) from Monitor Audio Bronze, KEF (Q350 and R7), and Focal Alpha Evo. All to me sounded harsh, with no real details translated to the listening experience. Up until now, I am a fan of soft dome tweeters.
P.P.S.: I wondered numerous times if somehow my Focal Alpha EVOs were defective....
Regards,
Cristian
I would suggest you save for Solo6 insteadI heard the Evo 50 and Evo 65 and there are more clinical than warm sounding in the highs. What I missed was more mid range.
You know... I believe that lowering a bit the highs phelps with that midrange, but I agree they are a touch "dry". But it's all about EQ really.I heard the Evo 50 and Evo 65 and there are more clinical than warm sounding in the highs. What I missed was more mid range.
Just bought the KH120I would suggest you save for Solo6 instead
They're from a different planet than the Alphas
Indeed... 350 vs 1400.... IMHO the Solo line is overpriced, and those berillium marketing things don't help me to think otherwise...They're from a different planet than the Alphas
My ears helped me think otherwiseIndeed... 350 vs 1400.... IMHO the Solo line is overpriced, and those berillium marketing things don't help me to think otherwise...
Perhaps with some EQ the Alphas can come very close to the Solos .. an EQ worth 2k... The mentioned kh120 for instance cost less than half the price and except for a bit less bass extension, they measure better than the Solos. I don't believe the Solo6 is twice as better as the KH120, that's above diminishing returns law. Overpriced!My ears helped me think otherwise
I heard the Evo 50 and Evo 65 and there are more clinical than warm sounding in the highs. What I missed was more mid range.
You wrongfully assume that I have listened to and tested EVOs only with electronic music, which definitely is not the case. I did say that Elvis's voice did not came through natural. I also listened to REM - Leave (Alternate Version), Spring by Vivaldi, Evanescence, RATM, Bjork, Dead Can Dance, Ofir Atar, London Grammar (worst experience on EVOs with vocals on Hey Now), Fleetwood Mac and many others.I listen to almost exclusively classical with my Alpha 50 (same tweeter) and I find their sound to be quite natural... they were the best I've had as far as timbric capabilities before yesterday that I've received my 8030, but that's another story... I've had a passive audiovectors in the past and the clarity in mids and highs is much better with these focals, no contest.
Are you sure those electronically generated tones aren't crappy? Perhaps the speaker is revealing something it has always been there, waiting for a good speaker...
I never heard one "budget" monitor that nailed tonality and vocalsYou wrongfully assume that I have listened to and tested EVOs only with electronic music, which definitely is not the case. I did say that Elvis's voice did not came through natural. I also listened to REM - Leave (Alternate Version), Spring by Vivaldi, Evanescence, RATM, Bjork, Dead Can Dance, Ofir Atar, London Grammar (worst experience on EVOs with vocals on Hey Now), Fleetwood Mac and many others.
Can you compare them? thanksI listen to almost exclusively classical with my Alpha 50 (same tweeter) and I find their sound to be quite natural... they were the best I've had as far as timbric capabilities before yesterday that I've received my 8030, but that's another story... I've had a passive audiovectors in the past and the clarity in mids and highs is much better with these focals, no contest.
Are you sure those electronically generated tones aren't crappy? Perhaps the speaker is revealing something it has always been there, waiting for a good speaker...
OK, fair enough. This is not my experience, they sound quite good to me.You wrongfully assume that I have listened to and tested EVOs only with electronic music, which definitely is not the case. I did say that Elvis's voice did not came through natural. I also listened to REM - Leave (Alternate Version), Spring by Vivaldi, Evanescence, RATM, Bjork, Dead Can Dance, Ofir Atar, London Grammar (worst experience on EVOs with vocals on Hey Now), Fleetwood Mac and many others.
Perhaps they don't nail voices, not sure really, but the highs aren't crappy either, IMHO.I never heard one "budget" monitor that nailed tonality and vocals