Not too bad. It doesnt take into account the W371 yet but I am sure it will come.
Yes, that is a useful metric, especially resolved against frequency, which is also in the report, see attached.This is pretty neat! Specially their early vs late reflections ratio score!
No no, get the GLM version. It is waaaaay much harder to adjust the sound manually with ADI-2 and REW etc. The SAM version Genelecs also sound better even without the room correction at least in my experience. The price difference is not that much. The future is digital.I already have an RME DAC to apply different EQ per channel, as my room is quite asymmetrical. I'm considering to buy a pair of 8030 plus a measurement mic which is ~ 1150 €.
The SAM version, a pair of 8330 + the GLM set, is about 1800 €.
I'm inclined towards option one, mainly because I don't need to be able to EQ the system in 10 minutes and I'm not a pro. Do you think eventually the GLM software can be that good that option two is better for home audio?
I have the impression that this new scores that GLM provide are basically a tool to asses your environment and prove to others it's good, which in case of a recording studio it may have a lot of sense. Not sure the benefit for a home listener...No no, get the GLM version. It is waaaaay much harder to adjust the sound manually with ADI-2 and REW etc. The SAM version Genelecs also sound better even without the room correction at least in my experience. The price difference is not that much. The future is digital.
I'm not surely if I agree with his as general advice, as the price difference is not insignificant:No no, get the GLM version. It is waaaaay much harder to adjust the sound manually with ADI-2 and REW etc. The SAM version Genelecs also sound better even without the room correction at least in my experience. The price difference is not that much. The future is digital.
I already have the RME DAC so Umik-1 + 7040 subwoofer was my idea.... I'll get the mic and start by practicing with my current speakers. To me the GLM software buys time and standards (comparable scores) with this new additions, and I don't need any of them.I'm not surely if I agree with his as general advice, as the price difference is not insignificant:
8030 set = ~€1100
8330 + SAM = ~€1800
That is a 65% premium for SAM or €700 at the 8x30 range.
With that €700, I would argue majority of people (obviously situation dependant) would benefit more from the following as opposed to SAM:
- Umik-1 + 7040 subwoofer
- Umik-1 + Yamaha HS-8 and upgrading DAC to Topping D10 or money towards improving something else in their chain
- Sonarworks SoundID Ref /w mic + some room treatment panels + some money in the wallet
- Umik-1 + ADI-2 DAC (ok this is a bit more than €700)
Again it's situation dependant, and I don't want to understate SAM capabilities, but I think it's a difficult value proposition.
I already have the RME DAC so Umik-1 + 7040 subwoofer was my idea.... I'll get the mic and start by practicing with my current speakers. To me the GLM software buys time and standards (comparable scores) with this new additions, and I don't need any of them.
I struggled with this a good bit. In the US, it is not easy to get good amps, DAC and room correction for ~$700. The MiniDSP Flex with Dirac is about $700 itself.I'm not surely if I agree with his as general advice, as the price difference is not insignificant:
8030 set = ~€1100
8330 + SAM = ~€1800
That is a 65% premium for SAM or €700 at the 8x30 range.
With that €700, I would argue majority of people (obviously situation dependant) would benefit more from the following as opposed to SAM:
- Umik-1 + 7040 subwoofer
- Umik-1 + Yamaha HS-8 and upgrading DAC to Topping D10 or money towards improving something else in their chain
- Sonarworks SoundID Ref /w mic + some room treatment panels + some money in the wallet
- Umik-1 + ADI-2 DAC (ok this is a bit more than €700)
Again it's situation dependant, and I don't want to understate SAM capabilities, but I think it's a difficult value proposition.
Perhaps should clarify this is for desktop set-up. Topping DS10 + REW + EquialiserAPO is $110 (and I recommend buying a beer or two for the developers who provide this software for free). If you want propriety software such a DIRAC, sure things change, but then may as well look at SAM.I struggled with this a good bit. In the US, it is not easy to get good amps, DAC and room correction for ~$700. The MiniDSP Flex with Dirac is about $700 itself.
REW already gives you everything you need and more, it just requires you to look for it in the measurements.
It doesnt matter - the sound from the 8330 even without GLM is slightly better than 8030c because it has a dsp crossover . 8330 sounds a bit clearer, especially when using a digitalI have the impression that this new scores that GLM provide are basically a tool to asses your environment and prove to others it's good, which in case of a recording studio it may have a lot of sense. Not sure the benefit for a home listener...
The 8030 has a better score than the 8330
Yesterday a ordered a pair of 8030signal into the AES input.
The better sound from 8330 reflects the price differences I would say.
For the price though , the 8030c is very hard to beat soundwise.
Ok - congratulations !It doesnt matter - the sound from the 8330 even without GLM is slightly better than 8030c because it has a dsp crossover . 8330 sounds a bit clearer, especially when using a digital
Yesterday a ordered a pair of 8030