As I understand it, development continues but is well advanced. Don’t recall cost estimates. Check the ‘build’ threads.What is a realistic cost for the directiva?
As I understand it, development continues but is well advanced. Don’t recall cost estimates. Check the ‘build’ threads.What is a realistic cost for the directiva?
A depressing thought is the image of all one's gear on eBay after you're gone.In my will, I have designated friends to liquidate the above - my fear is that the wife would sell things for what she thinks I paid
This is a really great point. I wonder if the shows would grant a discount of any kind to non-commercial exhibitors? Probably wishful thinking on my part.I'd go along with that, only trouble is the cost to exhibit in a room at Axpona is $4250 so added to the cost of the system and it starts to look like an expensive day out.
Exhibit - AXPONA
Become an Exhibitor JOIN THE GLOBAL AUDIO INDUSTRY, CONSUMERS AND PRESS TO PARTICIPATE IN AXPONA 2024 Renaissance Schaumburg Hotel & Convention Center, Schaumburg, IL **BEWARE OF HOTEL & LIST RENTAL SCAMS.** Why exhibit at AXPONA 2024? AXPONA 2023 attracted over 9,115 participants. 130 members...www.axpona.com
Some of the money can be recouped, the system can re-sold at cost/price... So we could remove it, still $4250 is stiff. Is it for the entire show? We could fund it.. or I believe we could... ... An interesting to bring more people to the fold.I'd go along with that, only trouble is the cost to exhibit in a room at Axpona is $4250 so added to the cost of the system and it starts to look like an expensive day out.
Exhibit - AXPONA
Become an Exhibitor JOIN THE GLOBAL AUDIO INDUSTRY, CONSUMERS AND PRESS TO PARTICIPATE IN AXPONA 2024 Renaissance Schaumburg Hotel & Convention Center, Schaumburg, IL **BEWARE OF HOTEL & LIST RENTAL SCAMS.** Why exhibit at AXPONA 2024? AXPONA 2023 attracted over 9,115 participants. 130 members...www.axpona.com
Yes, I was imagining/hoping that most equipment would be loaned by the participants.It would help if we just used gear already owned by members. Then the gear part would just be a loan for several days from each individual. That would allow for having different kinds of gear for A/B comparison, even.
Thanks to you all for describing the Scalford show, which sounds delightful (and the hotel seems very charming). I may have to plot a trip out there for the new version some year.Not to mention the approach road to the hotel had warning signs along it advising that a sinkhole might open up and swallow your car...
Their new venue is just a ten minute walk from my house, which is handy.
I think you actually did show what could be described as an 'ASR style set-up'.
It's a good idea, although you'll still never convince the die-hards.
Personally I’d like to see a blind test room, where you can swap in your DAC or cables and ABX. Prize for those who are successful.
Imagine the dirty looks from the snake-oil vendors and Fremers (Bet he wouldn’t come and try to repeat his purported success)
Then don't invite them.I love the idea of a ‘modest’ cost objectivist system that sounds amazing. That alone would be threatening to subjectivist exhibitors.
The original idea was to attend one of the mainstream shows (T.H.E. Show, AXPONA etc), taking out a suite as if we were a show exhibitor. I enjoy going to those shows anyway (snake oil notwithstanding), plus we'd have an opportunity to do outreach to other show attendees who are perhaps not familiar with the ASR-style approach.Then don't invite them.
How much extra gear do you have around? I have lots. Maybe just bring in what you got.
Also the rooms would only be about 100 bucks if purchased in advance.
Best western had nice rooms and looks pretty nice. But I've seen prices on these rooms go for $50 bucks if you use a corporate card program like when I was on the road.
I'd have put in empty toilet paper rolls as cable risers.Found a pic of the £100 system:
I remember a show in Cambridge UK, many years ago, where Quad's Peter Walker demonstrated a blind setup where you could try to identify his three amplifier designs, the early Quad II tube one, his Quad 303 and his Quad 405. He had great fun showing that nobody could identify them reliably.Personally I’d like to see a blind test room, where you can swap in your DAC or cables and ABX. Prize for those who are successful.
Imagine the dirty looks from the snake-oil vendors and Fremers (Bet he wouldn’t come and try to repeat his purported success)
Sadly true, I suspect. Same reason there’s so little of it in advertising-driven high-end media.As much as I would love to see that (also a blind test for people to see if they can hear the difference between hi-res, Red Book and AAC files of the same master), I think in the context of one of the mainstream shows it'd be in poor form. Showing that "the ASR way" can make for an incredibly good-sounding room is one thing; implicitly attacking other vendors at the same show would likely be frowned upon by the organizers.
Peter Walker commissioned James Moir & Associates to run blind tests involving various luminaries from the HiFi industry, using the Quad II (2 of them bridged), the 303 and 405. Results statistically analysed showed no better than guessing as to which was which.I remember a show in Cambridge UK, many years ago, where Quad's Peter Walker demonstrated a blind setup where you could try to identify his three amplifier designs, the early Quad II tube one, his Quad 303 and his Quad 405. He had great fun showing that nobody could identify them reliably.