Genelec 8361A Review (Powered Monitor)

[Kelims]

This one should work: https://www.audiophonics.fr/en/dac-...terface-aes-ebu-for-raspberry-pi-p-13316.html

Unfortunately, I couldn't find any measurements for this. I would be interested in a comparison with https://allo.com/sparky/digione-signature.html

 

[voodooless]

Unfortunately, I couldn't find any measurements for this. I would be interested in a comparison with https://allo.com/sparky/digione-signature.html

What measurements do you need? It gives bit perfect AES output, it just works as expected. No need to spend 6x as much.

 

[Kelims]

What measurements do you need? It gives bit perfect AES output, it just works as expected. No need to spend 6x as much.

I would imagine measuring this direction https://www.audiosciencereview.com/...measurements-of-allo-digione-rpi-s-pdif.5418/ and then comparing the two devices to get the best

 

[voodooless]

I would imagine measuring this direction https://www.audiosciencereview.com/...measurements-of-allo-digione-rpi-s-pdif.5418/ and then comparing the two devices to get the best

I think the fact that these do not offer AES should be a bigger criterion. The used chip in the cheaper board is excellent as is the clock (a temperature compensated crystal).

 

[Pearljam5000]

Anyone compared the 8361A to the TuneTot?

 

[q2klepto]

Still on the fence on getting an 8361a or 8651b to replace my kef meta for my home theater set up

• Room is 20x14x9 feet and is treated
• Metas are driven using 200wpc monolith amp
• Listening distance is about 10ft at mlp, 14ft at second row
• Subs are 4x monolith 15"
• 40/20/20/20 use case is movies/tv/gaming /music. Prob listening at - 10db at loudest (70db with 90-95db peak)

Thinking of starting with just replacing the center, 8361 would be nice for the headroom but maybe minimal gains over the 8351b in this space

Still not sure if I could tell the diff between any of the genelacs and the meta level matched and under 90db

Thoughts?

 

[nerdoldnerdith]

Still on the fence on getting an 8361a or 8651b to replace my kef meta for my home theater set up

• Room is 20x14x9 feet and is treated
• Metas are driven using 200wpc monolith amp
• Listening distance is about 10ft at mlp, 14ft at second row
• Subs are 4x monolith 15"
• 40/20/20/20 use case is movies/tv/gaming /music. Prob listening at - 10db at loudest (70db with 90-95db peak)

Thinking of starting with just replacing the center, 8361 would be nice for the headroom but maybe minimal gains over the 8351b in this space

Still not sure if I could tell the diff between any of the genelacs and the meta level matched and under 90db

Thoughts?

I have clipped my 8351B's, but only at reference levels running the bass 20dB hot. This was with subwoofers crossed over at 120Hz. Unless you are playing electronic music with crazy bass you aren't likely to run into the 8351B's limits.

 

[dshreter]

Still on the fence on getting an 8361a or 8651b to replace my kef meta for my home theater set up

• Room is 20x14x9 feet and is treated
• Metas are driven using 200wpc monolith amp
• Listening distance is about 10ft at mlp, 14ft at second row
• Subs are 4x monolith 15"
• 40/20/20/20 use case is movies/tv/gaming /music. Prob listening at - 10db at loudest (70db with 90-95db peak)

Thinking of starting with just replacing the center, 8361 would be nice for the headroom but maybe minimal gains over the 8351b in this space

Still not sure if I could tell the diff between any of the genelacs and the meta level matched and under 90db

Thoughts?

If you’re crossing over below 80Hz or 70hz to the subs, 8361 and 8351 will both have ear destroying headroom. In my opinion 8361 only makes sense if you will keep low bass routed to the mains.

 

[Pearljam5000]

Is there any advantage to the 8361 over 8351 if you're also using subs?

 

[dshreter]

Is there any advantage to the 8361 over 8351 if you're also using subs?

You can use subs and run 8361 full range. It really depends on how you are doing bass management, but that would be a scenario where it has an advantage with the greater power handling.

I really don’t think it has any advantages if you high pass to 8361.

 

[nerdoldnerdith]

Is there any advantage to the 8361 over 8351 if you're also using subs?

Yes. SPL between the sub crossover and the 320Hz midrange crossover. The misbass region is where Genelec monitors are the weakest and, incidentally, where loud music is the loudest. 113dB or whatever at 500Hz doesn't mean a lot if your woofers are crapping out at 150Hz.

 

[lherrm]

Yes. SPL between the sub crossover and the 320Hz midrange crossover. The misbass region is where Genelec monitors are the weakest and, incidentally, where loud music is the loudest. 113dB or whatever at 500Hz doesn't mean a lot if your woofers are crapping out at 150Hz.

Could you please elaborate concerning "The misbass region is where Genelec monitors are the weakest" ?

 

[Sancus]

The misbass region is where Genelec monitors are the weakest and, incidentally, where loud music is the loudest.

I don't disagree with you in general, there is a midbass output advantage for the 8361A over the 8351B. But 50-100hz is the loudest range on average. Which is one reason I prefer a 100hz crossover. Assuming that, you're correct that midbass is the weakest. Without subs, it's low bass of course. Both of these things are true for basically every size-limited speaker, even traditionally designed ones with relatively large woofers.

 

[Sam Ash]

Could you please elaborate concerning "The misbass region is where Genelec monitors are the weakest" ?

Could someone explain this in a bit more detail, maybe Amir can add some light.

 

[abdo123]

Yes. SPL between the sub crossover and the 320Hz midrange crossover. The misbass region is where Genelec monitors are the weakest and, incidentally, where loud music is the loudest. 113dB or whatever at 500Hz doesn't mean a lot if your woofers are crapping out at 150Hz.

I don’t get this both the 51B and 61B should be limited by thermal limits instead of excursion at 150Hz.

Neither of them ‘craps out’.

 

[abdo123]

Could you please elaborate concerning "The misbass region is where Genelec monitors are the weakest" ?

I would take it with a grain of salt unless you’re a DJ that plays at very large venues.

 

[Trell]

I don't disagree with you in general, there is a midbass output advantage for the 8361A over the 8351B. But 50-100hz is the loudest range on average. Which is one reason I prefer a 100hz crossover. Assuming that, you're correct that midbass is the weakest. Without subs, it's low bass of course. Both of these things are true for basically every size-limited speaker, even traditionally designed ones with relatively large woofers.

The 8350A have a good performance in mid/upper bass but I wonder if it is amp limited.

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[Trell]

I would take it with a grain of salt unless you’re a DJ that plays at very large venues.

There are other use cases, like home theater sitting around 3 meters away.

 

[abdo123]

There are other use cases, like home theater sitting around 3 meters away.

and you think one has more output than the other with a subwoofer?

 

[Trell]

and you think one has more output than the other with a subwoofer?

This is about mid/upper bass not covered by the subwoofer.